In this episode we talk about the likelihood and dangers of interference in the Australian election with the head of ASPI’s International Cyber Policy Centre, Fergus Hanson.

After that our two grumpy strategists, Michael Shoebridge and Marcus Hellyer, discuss the status of the Defence budget and we hear extracts of the keynote address delivered by Stephanie Copus-Campbell at ASPI’s annual gala dinner. Copus-Campbell has extensive experience in Papua New Guinea and provided an insightful view of PNG and its growing importance to Australia. You can view her full speech here.