In this special episode, we talk about war in 2025. That was the title of ASPI’s annual conference, which was held earlier this month.

At the conference, top strategists and thinkers discussed the key drivers of potential conflict in the next decade. In this podcast, ASPI’s executive director, Peter Jennings, and Michael Shoebridge, who leads the defence and strategy program, talk about what they learned.

You can view links to the articles mentioned in this week’s episode here.